Around the NHL - Summer 2012

[Convert]

Originally Posted by caveman

There have been some trades recently (JVR from Philly to Toronto for Schenn, Sergei Bobrovsky to Columbus for picks, etc.) but one thing I'd like to know is, since the Canes released their list of RFA players who were not tendered a qualifying offer, if there is such a list for the rest of the NHL, maybe somebody has seen an interesting name out there who will unexpectedly be a UFA come July 1.

The other talk yesterday and today is that Shane Doan will be testing the UFA market -- with Phoenix's ownership not fully settled yet.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...lifying-offers

[caveman]

Thanks Convert!

Blake Comeau, Peter Mueller, Cam Barker, Wojtek Wolski, Guillaume Latendresse, Jack Hillen, Gilbert Brule, Benoit Pouliot, Marc-Andre Gragnani, Ryan Parent, Eric Fehr, ...

Hm. Comeau, Mueller, Wolski, Fehr, and Latendresse have all scored 20 goals in a season. Latendresse scored 25 in 55 games... for the defensive-minded Wild. Brule and Pouliot almost got to 20 a couple times. (And side note: Pouliot was traded straight up for Latendresse a few years ago.) Lot of former first round picks, there.

[caveman]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201....ap/index.html

12 years -- through 2025 -- about $8.7M per. To be signed on Sunday. Crosby is currently (ONLY!) 24. He'll be 36 at the end of the deal.

edit: Oh, and we can quickly take Blake Comeau off the list, as he re-signed with Calgary 1 year, $1.25M.

Meanwhile, the Caps sent pending UFA Wideman to Calgary, which promptly re-signed him:

"The Calgary Flames have signed defenceman Dennis Wideman to a five-year, $26.25 million contract after acquiring his rights from the Washington Capitals in exchange for blueliner Jordan Henry and a 2013 fifth-round draft pick. Wideman, 29, was set to become an unrestricted free agent."

http://www.tsn.ca/tradecentre/story/?id=399374

[Convert]

Man, the owners are really strengthening their bargaining position on wanting contract limits and crying poverty with the contracts we've seen in the last few days for Wideman, Crosby, and Quick.

Any lockout of any length would be a total joke. Sure there are issues, but they sure don't act like it.

The one thing I think would be fair is to make the minimum spend a percentage of the full cap v. a straight 16M less.

I could see the players give up some revenue percentage points for dropping the escrow.

That's about it...just get it done....and I bet we see a few more of these contracts in the next week

[superdave]

Originally Posted by caveman

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201....ap/index.html

12 years -- through 2025 -- about $8.7M per. To be signed on Sunday. Crosby is currently (ONLY!) 24. He'll be 36 at the end of the deal.

Crosby may be the best player in the league, but he's only played in a handfull of games since getting hit in the Winter Classic a year and a half ago. Those post concussion deals are tough and we've seen enough research in the last few years that the effects are cumulative. Sid the Kid is worth every penny of $8.7M per year and one would think that he will be able to be a productive player for the length of the contract. One would also be wise to realize that he could be one hit away from getting coloring books for Christmas for the rest of his life.

I'm glad I'm not the GM that has to make that call. It's an especially tough call when you have to decide to let a player like Jordan Staal go in order to make this deal.

disclaimer: Don't get pissy about my coloring books comment. I understand that head injuries are serious.

[cmw00]

Originally Posted by superdave

disclaimer: Don't get pissy about my coloring books comment. I understand that head injuries are serious.

As somebody who likes to get coloring books for christmas, I'm offended!

[superdave]

Originally Posted by cmw00

As somebody who likes to get coloring books for christmas, I'm offended!

Well darn. I thought I had done gone and insulted folks with head injuries, when I really done gone and insulted folks what liked coloring books.

[wa10]

Originally Posted by superdave

One would also be wise to realize that he could be one hit away from not playing*.

Yeah, this was my gut reaction. And I would imagine that, given his history, his contract is either very expensive or impossible to insure.

I've never been clear about the league rule on salaries for injured players but, If he gets the whole amount regardless of playing, this is a risky investment.

*note that I modified the original quote.

[superdave]

Originally Posted by wa10

Yeah, this was my gut reaction. And I would imagine that, given his history, his contract is either very expensive or impossible to insure.

I've never been clear about the league rule on salaries for injured players but, If he gets the whole amount regardless of playing, this is a risky investment.

*note that I modified the original quote.

That quote was a bit unkind if you are a coloring book lover.

I understand the skill level of Crosby and agree that he deserves to get paid, but post concussion issues cost him almost a year and a half of playing time. We know first hand from the David Tanabe issue just how sensitive these things are.

Medical science has gotten a lot better in it's understanding of concussions and their cumulative effects. It seems that in sports, some athletes are just more likely to suffer these effects (not a scientific "fact", just what it appears to me at least). Each athlete is only going to be able to bounce back from a certain amount of head injury effects. I'd say Sid has been to that bank a couple of times already. I don't know the insurance and contract ramifications, but that's a long time to be on the hook when there are concussion issues.

[caveman]

Lot of re-signings the last couple of days: Scott Nichol, Hal Gill, Cory Schneider, Lee Stempniak, Cam Janssen, Cory Sarich, Nokelainen, Steve Downie, Travis Moen.

And some waivers from Florida: Matt Bradley, Mike Santorelli.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

Edmonton got the new rock star (Schultz). I imagine having Paul Coffey and Wayne Gretzky call and tell you how great it is has to be pretty convincing.

[Convert]

Originally Posted by SouthernHockeyChick

Edmonton got the new rock star (Schultz). I imagine having Paul Coffey and Wayne Gretzky call and tell you how great it is has to be pretty convincing.

I hope he stinks. While you gotta put some of this on the media, he definitely played a part in the hullabaloo around this.

[ontheboards]

Originally Posted by Convert

I hope he stinks. While you gotta put some of this on the media, he definitely played a part in the hullabaloo around this.

Why? Because he chose not to go to the team that drafted him? The CBA permitted it. Blake Wheeler did the same thing to Phoenix and landed in Boston. It happens. We were faced with the same likely scenario in 2006 and took steps to at least flip Jerk Johnson for some players and unloaded a bad contract.

[Caniac4life]

I don't get all the hubaloo around Schultz. I think a lot of it is.... it's the offseason, and a break from talking about FAF.







Is it hullaboo or hubaloo or huballoo or hubballo if y'r from Yankeetown?

[WillLikeWhoa091]

Originally Posted by Caniac4life

I don't get all the hubaloo around Schultz. I think a lot of it is.... it's the offseason, and a break from talking about FAF.







Is it hullaboo or hubaloo or huballoo or hubballo if y'r from Yankeetown?

That was my line of thinking too.

"Um... we're uh... still waiting for free agent season to beg..."

-whispers in ear-

"OH HOLY CRAP NEWS! The Oilers win the lottery!"

I always thought it was hubabaloo or hullabaloo. /shrug

[Convert]

Originally Posted by ontheboards

Why? Because he chose not to go to the team that drafted him? The CBA permitted it. Blake Wheeler did the same thing to Phoenix and landed in Boston. It happens. We were faced with the same likely scenario in 2006 and took steps to at least flip Jerk Johnson for some players and unloaded a bad contract.

That was my initial reaction to the spectacle...I overreacted negatively and after reading Bob McKenzie's tweets on the process, I regret my reaction. The kid and his agent conducted a clean and respectful decision process (including calling each of the teams he met with face to face to tell them his reasons for saying no) that was overhyped because of the twitter world we live in.

[SouthernHockeyChick]

It's hullabaloo.


If I were an Anaheim fan, I'd hate Schultz for sure. As it is, he's a scrub for ruling out my team (but that's nothing unusual, lol) but otherwise, I don't really care.

[KaniacFever]

Regarding Schultz. Anaheim has every right to be pissed. But the hullaboo was caused by the media. He didn't do anything he shouldn't have done when making a big decision about your life. Can't fault the kid for wanting to meet with the respective teams and see how you would fit with their club.

[ontheboards]

I have mixed thoughts about the whole Schultz thing, but overall, I thought the guidance he received on how to handle this and how he called each team he declined was really a classy move.

[caveman]

Some signings:

Ray Whitney to Dallas

Colby Armstrong to Montreal, also Prust

Filip Kuba to Florida

Matt Carkner to Islanders, also Brad Boyes

Gustavsson to Detroit

Lundin to Senators

Trade: Sens send Foligno to Columbus for Methot

Blue Jackets reach deal with goalie McElhinney

Rangers reach deal to re-sign D Bickel

Oilers agree to terms with goalie Danis

Sharks sign grinder Burish to four-year deal

Senators sign Latendresse to one-year deal

Flyers re-sign free-agent goalie Leighton

Moss signs two-year deal with Coyotes

Ryan Smyth re-signs with Edmonton

Tampa Bay re-sign winger Pouliot to 1-yr deal

Panthers re-sign Clemmensen for two years

Jets re-sign defenceman Meech to 2-way deal

[caveman]

Minnesota signs Zenon Konopka for 2 years (Total value $1.85 million ) -- and have also reportedly sent offers to both Suter and Parise

Montreal signs Francis Bouillon for 1 year (Total value $1.5 million )

Colorado signs John Mitchell for 2 years (Total value $2.2 million ) (Re-signing)

Phoenix signs David Moss for 2 years (Total value N/A )

And prior to today:

Columbus signs Nick Holden for 1 year (Total value $550,000 ) (Re-signing)

Nashville signs Paul Gaustad for 4 years (Total value $13 million ) (Re-signing)

Columbus signs Jared Boll for 2 years (Total value $2.1 million ) (Re-signing)

Montreal signs Alexei Emelin for 2 years (Total value N/A ) (Re-signing)

Pittsburgh signs Matt Niskanen for 2 years (Total value $4.6 million ) (Re-signing)

NY Rangers signs Martin Biron for 2 years (Total value $2.6 million ) (Re-signing)

Calgary signs Lee Stempniak for 2 years (Total value $5 million ) (Re-signing)

Montreal signs Travis Moen for 4 years (Total value $7.4 million ) (Re-signing)

Colorado signs Steve Downie for 2 years (Total value N/A ) (Re-signing)

[caveman]

Boston signs Tuukka Rask for 1 year (Total value $3.5 million ) (Re-signing)

Pittsburgh signs Jeff Zatkoff for 2 years (Total value $1.05 million )

[caveman]

NY Rangers signs Arron Asham for 2 years (Total value $1 million )

Colorado signs Greg Zanon for 2 years (Total value $4.5 million )

Pittsburgh signs Tanner Glass for 2 years (Total value $2.2 million )

Anaheim signs Brad Staubitz for 2 years (Total value N/A )

Pittsburgh signs Steve MacIntyre for 2 years (Total value N/A ) (Re-signing)

Montreal signs Brandon Prust for 4 years (Total value $10 million ) (included earlier, this is details)

[caveman]

Avalanche strike deal with winger Parenteau Detail**>
16:29, Sun July 1, 2012


Jets sign LW Ponikarovsky to one-year deal Detail**>


Oilers, Hordichuk agree to one-year deal Detail**>
16:30, Sun July 1, 2012

Rangers re-sign forward Newbury Detail**>
16:49, Sun July 1, 2012


Islanders sign D Carkner to 3-year deal Detail**>
16:36, Sun July 1, 2012



Wild sign LW Torrey Mitchell to three-year deal Detail**>
17:01, Sun July 1, 2012



Parros agrees to 2-year deal with Panthers Detail**>

[caveman]

Blue Jackets add vet Aucoin on one-year deal Detail**>
17:10, Sun July 1, 2012


Islanders sign LW Boulton to one-year contract Detail**>
17:14, Sun July 1, 2012


Predators sign G Mason to one-year deal Detail**>
17:19, Sun July 1, 2012


Leafs sign C McClement to 2-year deal Detail**>
17:38, Sun July 1, 2012



Lightning sign D Salo to two-year contract Detail**>
17:48, Sun July 1, 2012



Ducks sign D Allen to 3-year deal Detail**>
17:53, Sun July 1, 2012


Red Wings sign F Samuelsson to 2-year deal Detail**>
18:13, Sun July 1, 2012


Leafs re-sign G Rynnas to one-year deal Detail**>
18:18, Sun July 1, 2012


Leafs re-sign F Ryan Hamilton to one-year deal Detail**>


Tootoo signs 3-year deal with Red Wings Detail**>
18:34, Sun July 1, 2012